Where Am I At, and What Do I Need?

Ayurveda literally translates to the study of life, or the knowledge of how to live. Dr. Siva Mohan's five-second version is a daily check-in: where am I at, and what do I need? In her account, Ayurveda went underground for around 300 years under British influence in India, then resurfaced inside a Western allopathic setting and mass marketing. That stripped out its intuitive, self-connecting side and left behind diets and "five tips" lists. What remains at the core is a language for reading your own body. Modern Medicine Is Lost In Translation looks at what else gets lost when old healing systems are reshaped.

Because your health is a moving target, not a fixed state. Siva separates digestive capacity from blaming the food. On a good day there is little coating on your tongue, you feel true physical hunger and you are not stuck in get-it-done mode, so most high-quality food is handled well. On a day with more coating and a racing mind, the same meal can trigger a reaction. My own example in the episode: fasting 16 hours a day was the only thing that worked during 70-hour work weeks, and years later, with an active outdoor life, I could not last three days. Your Body Is Not a Machine sits on the same argument.

Siva's answer is no, and she calls the typing culture a sales pitch. Her argument: today it is what you have lived through, rather than your constitution, that determines how you go out of balance. So she works from your current state and uses three working patterns: depletion, inflammation and accumulation. A tech founder who travels constantly shows depletion through dry skin, bloating and light sleep, and his medicine is stillness and routine. A competitive runner who is also a doctor tried every diet for her gut inflammation, while much of the heat was coming from her life. Why Your Burnout Has Nothing to Do With Working Too Hard goes deeper on depletion.

Siva says we are taught it from day one, in lines like "put a coat on or you'll catch a cold" instead of "see how you feel, there's a coat here if you need it." The deeper misconception, she says, is that we do not have the power to heal ourselves, so we hand that power to an expert. She is grateful for conventional medicine in acute care and symptom relief, and argues that its tests and drugs do not address root causes. Her role is to teach you to see your own patterns. Why Your Brain Rejects Your Own Intuition covers the same broken trust, and the Quantum Diagnostic Session and The Science of Healing & Enlightenment are where we do this work together.

Lightly cleaned for readability, with the opening and closing pleasantries trimmed. Speaker labels are deliberately left out because the auto-generated markers are unreliable, so Ale's questions and Siva's answers run together as one conversation.

What's your story, and how did you even get to the Ayurveda? Yeah, of course. I think it's relevant because most everybody it's a pain to purpose story, right? Like, why did we come to the healing arts and wellness? It's it's usually because of some kind of journey where we were trying to solve some pain point for ourselves, right? And that's also true for me.

And so, being in Western medicine and being in international public health and I think I was in my mid-20s and starting to get diagnosed with several different autoimmune patterns. And finding that conventional medicine really didn't have much to offer. Much to offer in a clear understanding of why these patterns were there, how they were created, how to reverse them. And the solution of you know, taking meds to turn off my immune system for the rest of my life didn't sit very well with me.

As many people are experiencing these days. And so I started looking for different you know, healing modalities. I started opening up to them more so. And then I was traveling in international public health and I was around indigenous healing systems and I was seeing you know, the women in the communities that I was in would see me like complaining about a stomach ache or, you know, with an eczematic rash or some kind of issue, headache, this, this, this and they would bring me their remedies.

You know, and they brought relief. And this was happening obviously. You know, and so I'm like, wow, the power of natural tools, you know? And so I really there was a convergence where I was seeking in my own healing path and also witnessing personally the power of natural healing approaches. And then also my grandmother was on her transition out and I was starting to think about becoming a mother.

And so in my late 20s I decided to study Ayurveda because I thought, hey, it's something that I was raised with and my grandmother is not going to be here to infuse that into my children's lives and I want to kind of be a keeper of the wisdom. I want to understand it better and then also I wanted to understand it better personally and professionally. And what I found in Ayurveda is really different than many other like the opportunity that I found in Ayurveda.

Oh my god, that is another like I get so excited about it because I feel like the opportunity for it to be accessible as a framework, as a system. I love frameworks and systems. I'm a I'm a solver kind of person. And so, if I can give to someone, here's how to do something versus doing it for them, then I have empowered them and I've augmented my own positive impact and that just feels so good. Right?

So, the idea that there is a framework for self-healing is one thing, but also I found it very difficult in seeing an acupuncturist, for example, or a nutritionist, or a chiropractor, or a many other modalities that would be considered complementary or alternative in their classification to really feel a whole body wisdom, to also have a framework to understand my emotions, to also have a framework to understand the impact of my life experiences on me, my physical and my non-physical parts.

That you know, everything just gets kind of lumped under the category of stress and that's this oversimplification of how our lives impact our well-being. And so, to find that piece in Ayurveda is was really exciting for me. With the neuro and the psych, you know, studies, always looking at that mind-body intersection. So, I think like those two pieces, the accessibility and applicable nature of the way that I'm trying to share Ayurveda so that people can use this on their own, and the aspect of really understanding this bridge between physical, non-physical, and life container, that those two things were really unique to me across all of the various and I like all the other healing modalities and I use all of them, but Ayurveda was the only one that I It's the one that clicked to you, definitely.

Well, or that had these two components. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Like now that you're describing I mean, if I have to think about my own idea and perception about Ayurveda so far with the complete ignorance of having traveled the world and sometimes having met people that suggested me, "Oh, yeah, you should be doing this because of Ayurveda." I always felt it was very like first of all, I only thought it was a diet for like a long period of times and then after I realized it may be a little bit more, it was very painful.

Like it was like, "Why are you suggesting me this stuff? It doesn't make me feel any sense." You bring me kind of like a refreshing perspective about it. You know, it's like religion, right? Like humans just we bastardize it. There's so much good intention and wisdom in these all of the different faiths. All of them. And it's the applica- it's the way people are transmitting it and using it, right?

That be And it's the same thing like with Ayurveda, I think we have to understand the greater context that it was underground for like 300 years of the British influence in India and that when it came back up, it came back up in the context of this like more western allopathic medical setting. And that the majority of people spreading Ayurvedic wisdom are doing so for like marketing purposes. And all of that is healthy and great and wonderful and part of just the way the world is, but it's always for us to discern.

And I think like it was good that you had that feeling of wait a minute like Ayurveda rules supposedly are telling me to eat this way, but this is what my body says and what your body says trumped what any should from any different background comes. That's a core tenet of Ayurveda. Right? That there is an N of one. N of one is what we call a study of one with a population of one. Like the sample size is one, you know?

And it really is about emphasizing this individualized nature, but I think with the mass marketing and with the sort of going underground and all of that, there's a lot of stuff that happened with those effects. With the going underground, I think the major effect is that it became this sort of missing all of the beautiful, feminine, intuitive, self-connecting, psycho-spiritual pieces almost were like dehydrated out. And with the western mass marketing I think it's become sort of reduced into all of these rules.

Five tips to this. Do this every day. You know, here's your perfect meditation up with the with the yoga? Like who how and who built the Ayurveda brand? I'm curious about this. So Ayurveda is one of the Vedic sciences. There's many and they all function together. So basically Ayurveda imagine is the practice literally translates to the study of life or the knowledge of how to live. That's big. That's a very broad definition, no? So I almost see this as the mother. It's the like the mother science, if you will.

It's the regular practice of where am I at and what do I need? That's my five-second description of Ayurveda. It's the regular checking in and application and practice of where am I at, what do I need? Where is my energy ball at in its current patterns and context and what does it need to thrive and feel as best as possible, right? That we need that to know which yoga poses are optimal for me today, which pranayam, which mudras, at what time of day, with what intensity, in what sequencing, you know, with what temperature, like I can know all of that just by waking up and really checking in with myself.

Where am I at could look like how much coating is on my tongue, how my morning bowel movement was, what my energy level was, how my joints were feeling, you know, all of this is information and it's just a system and a language. So once you learn the language and you can decode the messages that your body's giving you, you have this or people going to stop you one second because this is like so profound in from the way I see it because, you know, literally you're getting bombarded to wake up in the morning and watch your tracker to tell you how you're supposed to be feeling like.

And then you're telling me, "Wait a second. We're talking about something else here." Yeah, you know, I actually the wearable technology I have a love-hate relationship with it because I think it serves us to a certain point to get connected with our patterns, but then past that point it becomes something that is in the way of us connecting with ourselves and our patterns, right? Like you want to rely more on So, if it's an initial supportive tool, great.

But then, you want to get rid of that and not have anything in between your awareness and your presence with your body and your subtle energetic body, ideally. So, that you have a constant pulse. Like and people know. It's like You know if you didn't sleep well. You know? Like You don't want to admit it, probably. You don't want to say it out loud because probably you need to, you know, kind of face show a poker face or some kind.

I always see a lot of people in a distressed situation say, "No, no, I slept very well. I slept very well." It's like, "Are you sure?" You know, I think so, it all those are layers that are the context in which we are living, right? Like social pressures, cultural pressures, family dynamics, etc., etc. And it doesn't matter what we're going through. The practice of where am I at and what do I need will always serve us to make choices which are more energetically beneficial.

You know, something comes to mind now based on what you just said. Cuz if people if we all want to get served a five tips to do X, how do you explain this other kind of work that you're mentioning to people? Cuz I find it also myself like this is almost kind of like a personal question because, you know, as a as a healer myself, I find so often in situations where Okay, but then what should I do? Okay, but then give me five things. Okay, then but give me, you know, make me talk to the person XYZ.

But where do you start from then? I mean, it's just it's You have to understand like this is a lifestyle, you know, to be in touch with yourself and to make healthy choices for yourself. I think that one of the greatest scams of like I don't, not scam, but like what's the word? Like a misconception that we are raised with that really harms us is that we don't have the power to heal ourselves. It's like you hand over your power to some kind of practitioner or expert and it's about the research and the expert.

Tell me what's wrong with me and tell me what to do about it. And rather like the role that I hope to play with or that I do play with my clients is more so let me show you the patterns that I'm seeing. Let me show you how to see them. Let me offer you a bunch of tools and approaches. You try and see how the patterns shift. You learn which context, which tools and approaches work best, which ones you love, which ones are the most effective to shift your patterns in the way that you want and which is observable and measurable, right?

Like and then you have the skill and the tools and you don't stay dependent on anyone else to make those healing choices and over the last 20 years I've seen hundreds of people successfully learn this where they know exactly how to adjust what they're eating, their herbal formulas, how they're sleeping, what social plans they're making, who they're spending you know, how they're having boundaries with certain people like and they're doing all of that with this very practice of observing their patterns, understanding how they want to shift the patterns.

Ayurveda is just providing us this framework or language, right? To decode the patterns, to have a language to categorize them, to talk about them, to see like to understand these tools are going to be more helpful in this scenario versus that scenario. Like inflammation versus depletion, for example, right? It's just a system. Right? But the funny thing is like people get so caught up in this Vata, Pitta, Kapha and this type yourself and all of that is a sales pitch, right?

Like you cannot put yourself in a box and I'm going to stop talking because you might have other questions, but I think one of my greatest departures is that very thing of like we are no longer living in a time where your constitution is determining how you go out of balance. It's really what you've experienced in life that's determining how you go out of balance and it's almost irrelevant your constitution in these days and times because we have so much more change, you know?

And so one of my biggest departures is you don't need to type yourself because I'm not treating or changing a constitution. If we're going to address anything therapeutically in intervention, it's going to be based in your current state, not your constitution and your current state is where am I at? What do I need, right? So that's kind of like where I am considered non traditional in Ayurveda.

Yeah, cuz I mean, of course, one of the of the key things that came to mind is like the more that you go into connecting the dots of ancient wisdom, the more that you study about it and the more you realize that it's all coming from the same download. I mean, the information is all just one. And when it's being downloaded, it's being downloaded into the language and into the needs of that time and that location and that kind of environment, right?

So, I guess all of this needs to be adjusted to the to the situation of where we are today. Bring me somewhere I remember when we first connected and talked, there was something that really clicked to me. And it was the digestive capacity versus the blaming of the food. Like right, always pointing the finger to here this and that. Yeah. I have to be honest, I've been there for very long time because I've been pointing the finger at gluten for my for example for myself for very long time.

Fortunately, I was able to work energetically, release all of the you know, whatever trauma or whatever other thing was connected to that. And I can as an Italian, it was an important part of my meals, as you can imagine. But so, I still realize that when like there are some days that I can digest certain things, there are other days where I cannot. Yeah, I think like understanding that we're not static is at the foundation of your question or the answer to your question, right?

Like the day-to-day you're a little bit different is a really key thing for us to understand because almost all of Western culture is built on these ideas of like static nature versus dynamic nature. So, if you can understand that your health is a moving target, then automatically you know that eating the same way every day or taking the same supplements all the time, like this is not that's not an effective approach, right? And so, you can't get around the need for self-awareness and observation, right?

So, on the days where you have really good digestive capacity, you will see, for example, there's really no coating on your tongue when you wake up. You feel a true physical hunger and appetite. Emotionally, you don't feel like you're activated in your sympathetic, so digestion is actually supported in the body. And on those days, especially with high-quality food, you should be able to handle most things really well.

The same foods on a day where you had a lot of biofilm accumulated, your body's already showing you, I'm not able to fully digest and handle what you gave me the day before is what that means, right? Where you're feeling very activated in the mind and get-it-done mode, that's sympathetic. You know, digestion's not supported in the body. And if also you have poor-quality sources of the ingredients, you know, the these that would lead to the same food, you know, in these two scenarios being handled in relatively well versus having a big reaction, you know, and the spectrum in between.

So, understanding where you're at really helps. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And I felt it myself now that you were kind of like reminding me of all of this because for many years in the kind of like hustle mode, previous life, working 70 hours a week, the only way that I could manage digestion was to fast every single day, at least 16 hours. But then I realized I tried like 6 months ago I think again and I couldn't handle it for 3 days because I was doing so much sport, living outdoors, and doing completely different lifestyle.

I was like literally about to eat somebody because I was so hungry. It's yeah, it's it's very funny when you when you start to understand all of these little nuances that it's I mean you're going completely off the you know, 30 days diet XYZ or already just taking the supplement every day. It's yeah. I think already it's mainstream. The idea that everybody should eat a certain way I don't agree with. I mean other than fresh and organic, right? But I think that even I don't eat the same way in summer versus winter.

You know, or on my period or off my period or you know, etc., etc. So we need to adjust according to what our bodies need and everybody can say agree with that, right? Like if you had a really bad night of sleep and you know you're tired the next day. There's certain things that would really support your body coming back to homeostasis. If you're fighting a cold and you know that you're going through whatever you're going through because you're fighting a cold.

If you're in a massive life transition, you know, like we have different needs and the better we adjust to fine-tune those needs, the faster we come back to that beautiful homeostatic place. And in this example is so great what you're saying because in that corporate setting you're you had so much accumulation on such low digestive capacity that the fasting was perfect medicine.

And in this lifestyle where you're an active father and living outdoors and playing sports and not with the corporate stress with a good digestive capacity, fasting was harmful in that context. And your body told you, right? So, but you're practicing Ayurveda because you're listening. To me, it you're doing where am I at and what do I need to feel best? And you're adjusting in real time with that messaging from your body. Right?

So, it's just a different what like if we're talking really the essence of Ayurveda, which is the science of life, it's just energetic pattern mapping. It's just this. If it's so But all the rest is just a language and a categorization system that I think is often translated or transmitted in a way that feels like a bunch of rules. But if it's so quote unquote simple, why do we get stuck not doing it? I mean, I have so many examples even on myself at the very beginning of this journey.

You know, and we even tried to make it like a dedicated video about this on Wholegrain Wisdom because it's so hard to I don't know, to probably put it in simple words. Why don't we trust our own body? Why it's so hard to believe that our body has real wisdom. Where did we get lost? I think we're taught that from day one. You know, like even think about I've used this example before, but like with my kids, I heard my mother saying, "You need to put a coat on, otherwise you'll catch a cold." Or Like, wait a minute.

How about Hey, go outside, see how you feel. If you're cold, there's a coat here for you. Like, you can hear in that example how we're raised with this fear of not following the rules or not doing the right thing. And or of letting our bodies determine or guide what's needed, right? And when I see children, because so many of us are raising our kids with this different awareness, you know, like my kids could tell me at 4, "Mommy, I had a hard poop, but I think I was I had too many dry crackers at school today." Right?

At 4. Or, you know, hey, what do you need to feel good? Like, or I'm hungry or I'm full. You know, or I'm tired or whatever it was. Like, just this awareness of where they were at and what they needed to feel good. Like, our children are have that more than us for all of these beautiful conscious parents that are out there cultivating that wisdom, right? But I do agree with you, the hardest part is trusting ourselves. Yeah.

When I arrived here, where I'm right now, I'm in my grandmother's place, where half of my family's from in Sardinia. And so, my son is meeting her his great-grandmother. And one of the first questions that she asked me was, "How do you measure what he's eating?" And I'm like, "What do you mean?" I don't I don't measure. I just do a little portion of whatever we're cooking. Of no salt and no sugar. And then, if he's hungry, he eats and if he doesn't if he's not hungry, he doesn't eat.

It's like, but how do you know he's eating enough? That's that's Yeah, I mean, of course the subconscious programming that we received for so long and for too long. Let me let me start to from generations maybe of memory and like ancestral memory and trauma of like famines and you know, whatever, but course if you if you offer dark bread or like raw like whole grain bread to my grandmother, she would refuse it because she reminds herself of the war. So it's like dark bread for me, there's no way.

I want a white bread. Yeah. You were going to say start to Yeah, let me let me start to wrap it up. I'm I'm curious to understand how like what does it mean all of these energetic terms that you bring into the Ayurvedic kind of like philosophy if we can define it? Because I feel that's another place where people start to get a little bit lost, you know, I mean, it's always easier when we get like if we are going from the list of okay, that's what you need to eat, that's what you should do or even just if you tell me try to listen to this kind of emotion, already there we are starting to lose somebody but we're we're almost understanding each other.

I think when we start to talk energy, people like the average person that really needs the most this kind of information get lost. So bring me a little bit on your map, conceptual map or definitions of what does it even mean? I think the best way would be to give like examples, you know, cuz it's not that hard, right? So for example, I have a client who is a businessman, a founder of a tech company, and it for him travel movement, closing big deals, the energy output that's required of that those are all depleting or energetics.

I could say vata. But he is happy to understand it as depletion. You know? And when you have too much of that energy coming in to your energy ball you may get signs that your body's like, "Enough of that. Too much of that." And that's going to show with signs of depletion or vata patterns in the body. So that might look like dry skin, lower true physical appetite, more gas, bloating, belching, more straining in bowel movements lighter sleep you know, a mind that feels like it's moving all over, very windy. Right?

Like so, he can understand that. And he can track these things are happening in life that are depleting factors, and he can also observe within his body signs that are saying, "Hey, too much depletion." Right? And then he's also understanding that the medicine is always the opposite. Right? So, if you're hot, then cold is the medicine. But if you're cold, then cold is not a medicine. Right? Hot is the medicine.

So, you know, for him to know, "Okay, like stillness familiarity, structure, routine, warm moist, nourishing energetics in anything, whether that's food or whatever those are things that are medicine for depletion pattern, right? So, I have another client who is a competitive runner, and she's also a double board certified doctor running a geriatric facility. Like, that's a lot of she should be knowing this stuff, by the way. Not at all.

And so, what she has is a ton of intensity in her life, and she's seeing signs in her body of too much inflammation, which is intensity and inflammation are kind of the same energetic pattern, right? So, for her, those things are just aspects of her life, but it's not what she's eating. So, she's looking to calm this inflammation in her digestive system, but so much of these heating energetics are coming in from her work and her and her joy of competitive running.

And yet, she's she tried every diet, peptides, everything for her gut, and has not seen the change in all of these inflammatory signs and symptoms. Even meds, you know, it's like now she's just dependent on these medications. Because no one showed her that your life, like I said, life container, non-physical and physical, and there's a bridge between all of those. So, to be able to map that.

So, those are just two examples of like, you know, you can teach people to see the signs and to categorize them in the Vata, Pitta, Kapha sort of patterns, or I like to say depletion, inflammation, and accumulation patterns, because it just feels more usable. Yeah. And you can So, people can learn how to observe these signs in themselves and then we can look to their lives and see where these energetics coming in and they can learn to observe cause and effect and then we can bring in therapeutic interventions that they can try.

Right? So for that runner it might be you know, planning to wean down the competitive aspects. It might be bringing in an anti-inflammatory herbal tea. It might be being aware of triggers that cause inflammation like nightshades in her diet to do what we can because we can't change her job overnight. You know what I mean? So as we're working on the long-term things to bring in some short-term tools. Whereas with that other client, you know, he works for himself.

He has a lot more agency over those depleting things. It's just about almost giving him the support and the witnessing and the accountability to design his life in a way that he's not constantly depleting himself and seeing these symptoms. And with him it would be a very different set of tools that all counter depletion. Maybe that's planning a buffer day with every trip to recover ground, integrate, unpack and come back into your routine. Maybe it's different herbal formulas that counter depletion.

You know, so it's like this. It So I think that's a better way for people to understand what does this practice look like in a real scenario. Actionable. Yeah, absolutely. Let me let me try to close with one last question. And it goes into like for anyone that is still out there thinking Ayurveda diet, be vegan. What are the biggest misconception that we should really change about what we started let's say with the a little bit of a lost in translation over the many years.

What do you think feel it's still like the biggest That's the same the same for this issue like first of all Ayurveda was never vegan. The breast milk of the cow is regarded as sacred because it is with the purpose. It's very Dharma is to nourish every mammalian cell line. And the fact that we can use that to nourish our cell lines in ghee, in milk, in buttermilk, and all these different tools of Ayurveda was why it was regarded as medicine, right?

Is that also why the cow is sacred in India or is it not connected to that? Absolutely, that's why. Yeah. So the fact that this animal gives us a source of a life-giving substance that literally nourishes all of our embryonic cell lines. That's huge and that's exactly why the cow is considered sacred. And animals in general are honored for what they give us medicinally, right?

And so like all ancient cultures, you know, how animals are revered for the gift of their fat, of their meat, of their bone marrow, of their breast milk, of you know, these amazing substances that we benefit from. That's like a whole another discussion, but Ayurveda was never vegan or vegetarian, but I also think that this is one of those things where it's about the changing time.

So, in Ayurveda we understand that meat, bone marrow, bone broth, like these are things that were used medicinally, like the chicken noodle soup, you know, like we use these things when we're depleted, when we need to regenerate because they're highly nutritive and they offer the raw ingredients for regenerating and rebuilding tissues. Thousands of years ago, we did not have the depletion that we do today.

I mean, the fact that you're making thousands of micro decisions on your cell phone every day, the amount of different information that is put in front of you constantly to digest and process and stimulate and de-stimulate, and the pressures that we have to perform on so many different levels, those didn't exist. I mean, people had lives that were in nature, living in nature, with the cycles of nature, doing the same thing that their family did from when they were born to when they died, being with the same people, eating the same foods, living in the same climate mostly, you know, so the amount of depleting factors has grown exponentially.

And as a whole, including myself, I don't know anyone without depletion patterns of imbalance. So, as a whole, us feeling better, having more of these animal products, like these organ meats, these regenerative tools, that's reflective of the state of depletion that our modern life entails. It's It's crazy to look at it from this point of view. It's It's really mind-blowing.

Cuz I mean I the recent experience I had for my for myself or for my family is that of course my son was born relatively recently a few months ago. And I don't think I have ever seen so much bone broth in my life. Because my wife started to get it way before and then of course all of the months after that. And there's never been a single day without milk. This should be another podcast per se, but of course Let me Let me close it.

I think that's what's beauty is that everyone gets to choose for themselves because there is a lot of ways to bring in regenerative highly nutritive foods without you know, people's social and cultural beliefs around how they engage with animals and their spiritual beliefs. Like I think that's what's beautiful is that Ayurveda doesn't conflict with anything, Alessandro. It really is like what do you need for your patterns and understanding that, right?

And so respecting that because of course me coming to somebody and forcing you to do XYZ because of whatever belief that doesn't necessarily fit with you then of course it's a complete different topic. And I think that's a limitation of the practitioner, right? If they don't know how to reconcile what you're observing hey, wait, this doesn't feel good to eat or I'm having these issues when I'm eating in the way you're prescribing to me and this is what feels good to me and this doesn't fit what you're teaching me.

Like an adept practitioner should easily be able to reconcile those things. I guess I think probably the same very same description could be given for anyone that feels by any way not properly treated in the in the normal medical system because that's that's also a kind of a prescription. Yeah, of course. It is. I think that the difference is that in conventional medicine and having gone to medical school like when we don't have the education and understanding of root causes for a lot of things.

It's more about understanding what is happening biophysiologically, what there like what interventions exist and we're taught to offer diagnostic tests and pharmaceutical interventions, none of which really heal root causes. So, understanding that system is really great for sick care, for acute care, for urgent care for symptom relief and we can be so grateful for it because who hasn't benefited from antibiotics or Tylenol you know, thank God for that.

But to understand that's all that system teaches and offers, whereas in Ayurveda it offers more. And so, if your practitioner can't reconcile things and they're just stuck in the set of rules about it should be this way all the time, like everybody should eat kitchari and you know, you typed like this so you should take these thing like if they don't have the ability to reconcile your lived real-time experience with their shoulds that is not a failure of the system. Yeah. Definitely. Well, thanks so much.

It's always been a lovely conversation. Let me close it by asking you where can people find you? How could people support or get support from whatever work that you're bringing on that is so precious and final thoughts, final words, what do you what do you wish for everyone at this point in your life and you with your life path and your life Dharma if we can say so? Yeah, well, that one's easy. What I wish for everybody is that greater presence with themselves.

Just that ability to really hear what their bodies and their non-physical bodies, you know, are saying to them and to trust it and to listen to it a little bit more. I think we would have more connected decisions and more energetically beneficial decisions. And when we're doing that for ourselves, there's a ripple effect. You know what I mean? So, what's good for us is it's good for the whole. So, that's my wish. That one's easy.

In terms of my work right now, it's really a blend of my medical can you know, sort of more conventional public health background looking at the bigger picture and what I've realized is that it's not it like right now we have access to all the tools. Everybody has the tools and we've got all these cool tests and everyone's got all these biomarkers and everyone is totally clueless about what to do. For their bodies and to be healthy. And I think it's just information overwhelm and decision paralysis.

And so, where I am focusing is offering wellness strategy. So, I created a framework. It's called the Mohan method. And there's five major pillars that everyone needs to consider when drafting their own strategy and we can't step out of the role of being the CEO of our own health enterprise. We can't It's our responsibility to keep ourselves healthy. And so, the sooner we recognize that and accept that responsibility and sort of step into the driver's seat, we need a strategy, right?

There's so many different parts of us. There's so many different things that affect our health. So, how do we organize ourselves in our approach to keeping ourselves well? And so, what I'm offering these days is a strategy. People can learn more about that at my website, sivamohan.com.